Steward requests/Checkuser/2011-03

  Additional information needed - sorry I do not understand this request. Why a CU is needed here? Thanks, -- Dferg ^{☎ talk} 21:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

  Not done unclear request and no further info forthcoming. fr33kman 00:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Ouzo (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
• NewOuzo (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
• Revenge time (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)

Could you check ka:user:Ouzo the IP-address of this user and, I’d like to know if there is still any contributions of this user in Georgian Wikipedia.

• Discussion: No local Checkusers;
• Reason:He/she uses several accounts and acts autocratically, does not pay attention the talks. --Petre17 16:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

  Additional information needed I think that we need more info here. Which are the suspected sockpuppet accounts?, where is the ongoing abuse? In case that there's abuse: are other methods (like blocking) not working? Why technical evidence will help you in this case? In few words:   CheckUser is not for fishing

-- Dferg ^{☎ talk} 18:12, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

This user, which basic account is Diaoha, has been registering himself with variety names and tries to scandalize Georgian Wikipedia. One of his accounts is mentioned above (Revenge time). Except this, he has several accounts (ka:user talk:Iaponeli – we are sure in this.), 13th december he registered new name, after he changed template autocratically in Georgian Wikipedia, which caused harsh discussion. Admins can not block him, because of his intrigues, he made friends with some of admins and they interrupt us during working in Wikipedia. If you can assure us that these accounts belong to one and same user, so admins could could have appropriate arguments to block him. Hope, you will get correct decision and let avoid Georgian Wikipedia scandals. --Petre17 20:29, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Could you please fasten the discussion, because some one is prepearing the provocation.--Petre17 14:56, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

  Done Ouzo and NewOuzo are the same, Revenge time appears unrelated. fr33kman 02:31, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

•   Additional information needed Does Persian Wikinews allow requests for self-checks? If so, can you please link to the policy here. Thank you. -- Avi 03:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

•   Not done - Sorry, but I doubt that this is useful. If there is no need for checking and there is no account to complare to, it is somehow like fishing. I don't think that such checks should be done. -Barras 13:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Results

•   Inconclusive or   weakly possible in my opinion. If another steward wants to doublecheck my result is welcome to do so. Thank you, -- Dferg ^{☎ talk} 18:36, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
•   Unrelated Although both users have sockpuppets, they are unrelated. User Achun1111y is not a problematic one, user Achun1112y is one of many blocked sockpuppets. User Achun1111y has created one sockpuppet just after his or her primary account has been blocked. I suggest unblocking user Achun1111y. If you need the list of Achun1112y's sockpuppets, please open another request. --Millosh 07:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

• • Umm, Okay. Thank you, sir! --Idh0854 08:25, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
  • And we trying to track down sockpuppets of Achun1112y, also we nosed out sockpuppets of Achun1111y.(User "Caycedo736", User "Marcha Libertadora"). Thank you. We will request list of Achun1112y's sockpuppets, soon. Thank you. --Idh0854 08:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Could you investigate other sock puppets of Achun1111y?

• Achun1111y (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
• Marcha Libertadora (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
• Caycedo736 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)
• 218.48.38.218 (contr · deleted · block · log · block log · CA · guc · checkuser · lwcheckuser)

These are confirmed sock puppets. His accounts are already blocked from ko, en, ja, es, and lo. -- ChongDae 08:49, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

  Confirmed except for Caycedo736 as you must ask the local checkusers on enwiki. fr33kman 00:43, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

  Unrelated--Shizhao 07:03, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Were they compared to the users shown on the diff above? That was the main purpose of the request, sorry if I did not let that perfectly clear. RafaAzevedo 07:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

  Unrelated Yes, I rechecked and compared to the users on that diff and they are unrelated. fr33kman 00:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Please include IPs 189.59.81.19 and 189.59.98.163, which are suspected to have been used by YoudaCamper to evade blocking last 5 February.--Darwinius 02:42, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Also to be included: JLRC, 189.100.168.222, 187.56.157.201 and 201.27.64.37, mentioned here.

Maddox 13:44, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Please include as well Joff, a "new" user with the same modus operandi. RafaAzevedo 17:24, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Please add 200.140.3.243, another IP acting in cohorts with Youda Camper.--Darwinius 23:29, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Please also include Chocolate Preto, user with the same behaviour and editing purposes. 188.82.212.150 22:51, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Please include 189.100.163.246 and Wjalves. Same behaviour. Maddox 21:10, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

We have an urgent situation of disruption going on at wiki-pt involving those users, this request is almost 10 days old, can please someone have a look at this?--Darwinius 23:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

How so? I'm not a sock puppet of YoudaCamper. Do you mind very well, Maddox. I will ask lock on Brazilian Wikipedia.I`m NOT Youda Camper.--ElectroStatic Jolt 00:25, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Result

• I don't believe YoudaCamper is JATV.
• JATV is Wjalves and some IPs on the 201.* range above mentioned.
• ElectroStatic Jolt is also ElectroBot Jold (evidently) and he's related to the 189.100.* range mentioned.
• Chocolate Preto = Maria Mayer = Boneco de Neve = Cão e Gato
• Nothing I can conclude on the rest of accounts.

es:Magister Mathematicae 01:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Wait a minute... ElecrtoStatic Jolt is related to the 189.100.* range - the same one YoudaCamper used to evade a block? No comments on that?

Maddox 14:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

189.100/14 is a massive range of people, there will be many, many people editing ptwiki using it. fr33kman 01:02, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Beangbag—there is no user with such username. Can your also explain in more detail why this checkuser is necessary. Ruslik 11:55, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

There does not seem a prima facie case for use of CU here. I don't personally see evidence of abusive multiple user accounts just from the diffs and you should already have good evidence prior to coming to SRCU, not come here to get the evidence.   CheckUser is not for fishing As for a global lock, those are for xwiki abuse and not when local blocks will work. fr33kman 19:15, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I wasn't able to get back to you earlier. There's some evidence that this account belongs to a prolific vandal named NewPak2 which was blocked some time ago in April; often it is the case that we try to contain his inappropriate behavior on Wikiversity, but it occasionally spreads to other projects like Wikisource where he trolls, like this example and a more recent one. We've also had to combat disruption locally, especially in cases of privacy violations he caused, such as those to this page. Often it seems that he does not openly disclose that he is the same person when, or if it is true, he makes multiple contributions to the same pages, and, except for the instance where his IP signs as Jacklover, he does not link that Jacklover account to the other ones either, as if to avoid scrutiny or more blocks. If there was a different solution to try to restrict his creation of new accounts or migrating to any other projects (other than Wikiversity, Wikisource appears to be a favourite habitation of his) I'd like to hear, and maybe apply it to him. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 20:35, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

"There's some evidence"; can you list it here please? Right now, I'm still not making the connection. fr33kman 21:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

They all have a strange predisposition to edit Mabuabsdd and Draubb related stuff, sometimes revealing private information that need to be deleted. Ruslik 08:36, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

  Doing... ok fr33kman 01:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

  Confirmed also v:User:Mabuabsdd, v:User:Ascoboo, v:User:Bhainbore, v:User:Aaqiby1, v:User:Jacklover1, v:User:J.amdjfkakaasdd, v:User:Bac, v:User:Drackalarimo, v:User:Nelvada, v:User:Judydoudy & v:User:Ritnor. I'd suggest a range block of 98.140.184.0/22 if you wish to have more effective defence. fr33kman 02:06, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Caveat emptor: since the IPs used here localize to a school(s) in VA it is feasible that this means that it is a shared range. The user agents of all of the above, however, are identical. This could also mean more than one student is using the same computer, however all edits are to the same articles roughly. Local admins will have to decide the weight of this CU in that regards. fr33kman 02:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

• Fr33kman, were you aware of the prior checkuser request from TeleComNasSprVen regarding v:User:Mabuabsdd? He did not link to it. Similarly to this report, most accounts listed and locked then had no contributions off of Wikiversity.

• Date of last edit on WV:
• 98.140.184.254, 4 February 2011 only apparent edit outside of en.wikiversity is an apology. (Prior editing and block on en.wp may be the same editor, but unlikely.)
• Beangbag1, 11 February 2011, no edits outside of en.wikiversity. No blocks.
• Jmququ44, 10 February 2011 single nondisruptive edit to en.wikisource. No blocks.
• Denial 13:10, 4 February 2011. account appears isolated to Wikiversity. No blocks.
• Dkabbhodofbsd, 13:08, 28 January 2011. no edits outside Wikiversity. No blocks.

• Draubb has been editing heavily since the other accounts, and he's been about as responsive as I'd expect for someone who is possibly seven years old, maybe eight. I requested he confine himself to one account, and it seems he has. I requested that he stop creating pages in mainspace, and seems to have mostly respected that, except for what may have been errors in moving files, he's been moving pages he created under other user names into his own user space, which I have encouraged. He has used real names, for himself and his apparent friends, and backslid on that recently, but is generally cooperating.

• Wikiversity administrators have been helpful in working with this user, and the work load required has not been high, compared to what existed earlier when the approach was delete and block. Fr33kman, there was no need for "defence."

• TCNSV has been opposed, on Wikiversity, to my efforts to educate this very young user or users. I cannot see deleted pages, but the guidance to deal with disruption using local blocks rather than checkuser and global locks has obviously not been followed.

• I was prepared, seeing this report, to suspect that there had been additional cross-wiki inappropriate editing. I don't see it.

• TCNSV came here for what appears to be an exclusively Wikiversity problem or issue, instead of first requesting assistance from WV administrators; he seems to think of meta checkuser as a substitute for local administrative supervision, he can file requests here and nobody from Wikiversity notices. I only happened to see this today because of other business. There was no need for checkuser on these accounts, they are all obviously either the same user or the same "family" of users, probably using the same class computer. Edits from home IP are unusual.

• I do appreciate the request by TCNSV not to lock Draubb, but consider this request to have been a waste of checkuser time, as well as mine to check out the cross-wiki contributions that, it turns out, don't exist.

• Fr33kman, you are correct that this may be a single class computer. The edits tend to come in at the same time of day, roughly, during the school week. I have been unable to ascertain if there is more than one person involved. A series of accounts were globally locked as a result of TCNSV's prior filing, and I requested information from the user (Draubb), but the user doesn't respond much to questions. I deal with a seven year old every day, my own, and it's normal! However, before that locking, I did see edits that appeared to be different kids, friends, editing the same pages. This may be disconcerting to WMF volunteers on other projects than Wikiversity, but it is not necessarily a violation of WV policy.

• These are not "articles." They are all edits to user space pages, except for what may be errors. In the future, there may be some "classes" created that would be appropriate for these kids to edit. For now, Draubb is practicing with wikitext and is learning how to edit nondisruptively. If you have or have had a seven-year old, that's a big deal! --Abd 03:27, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

  Comment okay, on your say-so we'll leave this person to the hands of the local community. I'm a bit upset that TCSNV did not link to his prior request, I would not have touched this had I known. I shall address that with him. From now on please get a local consensus for further CUs to be done on this matter. Good luck! fr33kman 04:16, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Apologies to TCNSV, the link was there in the discussion, I must have missed it completely. fr33kman 06:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

more user Steward_requests/Checkuser#布列坦妮@zh.wikipedia--UAL55 11:22, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

  Done. Loneyuyeung. Ccasci, 布列坦妮   Confirmed. 仙弩   Likely. מתניה 11:44, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Result: No named users / other accounts associated with this IP --Eptalon 21:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

189.106.53.65 16:01, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

They both reverted your edits to this article. I do not think it is an appropriate CU request. Ruslik 17:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

I really would like to request this verification. This people never stop. Justus edited some months ago in political articles, stopped, and now he returned. And he used other IPs at Governo Lula to force an ghost majority against other editors. Darwin , a famos editor in pt-wiki, says "Justus is a famous socker" here: http://pt.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikip%C3%A9dia:Pedidos_a_administradores/Pedidos_de_bloqueio&diff=24412854&oldid=24412651 189.106.149.93 15:46, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

  not doneThis is an wholly inappropriate request, and is therefore denied. fr33kman 21:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)